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mental maverick
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Posted - 2010.07.04 13:33:00 -
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I agree with Shar that it's a market manipulation attempt. But, it's also true depending on what kind of time scale you're looking at, and 2-3 years might be a bit long Akita, I'd say 1-2, tops. Yeah, i know, not that short term either 
But if you have isk thats just sitting in your wallet or if you are going away for a couple months it might not be a bad idea. There are better ways to make money but it's virtually effort free and as stable as an invesment gets with that kind of potential return. Not something to do if your looking for a quick buck though.
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Posted - 2010.07.04 15:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Icanti
I guess it is people dumping stockpiles atm then. But god knows why they are settling for such low ball amounts.
Because they bought them at 418 isk/unit and are making more than 10x the isk back selling at 5k+
Guessing from the nature of your OP you bought some at 4-5k hoping to make a quick buck and the price isn't going the way you want as fast as you want..?
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Icanti
Unless we see some clickative easing from CCP or enough PI products were stockpiled pre the removal of the NPC orders to meet demand for the next few years, its a sure bet prices will rise.
Don't really understand the hostility in this thread to this idea.
No hostility towards the idea that they will go up in price, I just dont think it will go as fast as some ppl might think.
I also think that there will be a threshold at some point were profits just gets to good for the NPC stockpilers to not offload on the market. Maybe 10k, and it might stay there for a while until the major players have depleeted some of their stock, since ppl will want to liquidate sooner or later.
If you want a bit longer term, low effort investment or just have a bunch of isk sitting in your wallet its actually a very good and, as you mentioned, a pretty secure investment unless CCP pokes their stick in the machinery.
If you think you'll do better than the price development of guidance systems by just running your regular operation than you should continue to do that, and i think some ppl will.
Guidance systems will go up slow and steady for a long while is my guess.
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mental maverick
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Damn, seems I missed my chance at selling them for 5k... ;(
Yeah, same here. I feel so stupid right now. I should have listened when I had the chance. I mean how could I miss it when there is a veritable novel on the forums explaining why GSs are the worst investment ever. 
^^Might regret that later but I very much doubt it 
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Posted - 2010.07.08 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
The whole point is at 18K a GS for a single person can make 600mil per month doing next to nothing.
30 h of active game time is what you consider next to nothing? Well have fun clicking and hauling then I guess...
On a more serious note, I think you just found the bottom threshold for GSs on a long term. Considering 25 mil/h is what a decent lvl 4 mission runner is earning with no demands on when to log on or worrying about market competition I'd say 20k is the lower limit before ppl move on to other stuff.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Why I'm getting lectured on how to personally value my time is astonishing...
Because you are using it as argument in a discussion about the profitability of PI and whether it is a viable income source compared to other proffessions, based on ACTIVE time spent setting it up and maintaining it.
You don't see me using some ****ed up argument about my time spent pvping and calculating profitability on that. Then using some formula based on that and my personal preference of pvping in an attempt to estimate the tendency of ppl doing PI or not at current product value.
I really, REALLY, hope you are trolling because the level of stupidity in your posts and the amount of posting is starting to resemble the forum version of a bad case of diarrhea.
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mental maverick
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Posted - 2010.07.09 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
So you can stop trying to shove words into my mouth they don't fit.
I don't know about that seeing as it does look more than big enough...
Cba to quote all the stupid stuff you've posted in this, and other threads on the same topic, but it started with you making the statement "20k for GSs, in your dreams!"
At which point it was explained to you that 20k is probably only half way to its true value, with a slight disregard for stockpiles, considering the effort required to produce them.
This is when you post your setup as to how you would do it and the amount of active time required to maintain said setup. Turns out you made about 25 mil per active h according to your estimates, which I thought were a bit optimistic but ok. 25 mil per active h is still not very good compared to other professions in EVE, which was subsequently explained to you.
And que your flawed formula for valuing time, as an argument, in extent, defending your "20k GSs, in your dreams!" statement.
And now I really am getting worried I'm being trolled, cause this is getting quite ridiculous tbh...
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Posted - 2010.07.09 19:27:00 -
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As I said before, I cba to cross reference everything you posted SencneS as my only means of internet is currently my phone and its a pita to do.
But pls, for the love of god man, read your posts again on pages 2 and 3. I get the feeling you only see the parts of your, and others, posts that is of benefit to you in your argument.
Way before anybody was questioning your way of valuing time you clearly stated that you thought 20k GSs wasn't a possibility and proceeded to use your own planet setup to back it up.
How is it that you don't see this? I'm really at a loss here as to how to explain the flaws in your argument. It's like your deaf to anything else but your own voice, and even then you only hear what you want to hear.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: mental maverick on 15/07/2010 19:14:56
This thread is starting to remind me of a pretty funny movie i saw once, anybody care to take a guess?
hint: Jim Carrey is in it...
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Posted - 2010.07.15 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Icanti
How about liar liar?
Wrong, although it kinda fits i guess...
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